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<span>Posted:</span> 15 Nov 2006 08:19 AM CST</h3>
<div class="itemcontent"><p>Agreed that “It is no more an indicator than Shinui Ma’aseh.” Even in the phenomenological universe, shinui ma’aseh is more real than shinui sheim.</p>
<p>However, the gemara called it shinui sheim — that the definition of the distinction is nomic. My point isn’t whether or not faxes are nolad. My question was not rhetorical. My point was that labeling the kind of change “shinui sheim” isn’t something Chazal could or would do lightly, as it has impact in future cases. When they say it’s a change because the name changes, I would assume that’s exactly what they mean.</p>
<p>Another example — the shift from aravah to hoshanah (which in gemara-speak is the one with your lulav) is given as a shinui sheim. (Not that it makes a stolen aravah usable, but that’s because of mitzvah haba’ah ba’aveirah.) Nothing physical happened to the aravah — it was simply tied to the lulav.
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