[Avodah] Asara B'Tevet

Micha Berger via Avodah avodah at lists.aishdas.org
Tue Dec 29 14:56:04 PST 2015


On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 05:00:11PM -0500, Zev Sero via Avodah wrote:
: No, that's the exact opposite of what I've been saying.  My point is
: precisely that it's *agadah*, and the BY brings it for its aggadic
: value, not because it's a serious shita in halacha.  And perhaps that
: even the Avudraham didn't really mean it as a serious shita in halacha,
: but only proposed it because he knew it was impossible, and made an
: interesting point with aggadic implications.

Yes, whereas I am saying that

1- The BY does NOT quote idea just for aggadita.
and
2- Ideas that don't work halachically have no real aggadic implications.
   Otherwise, the halakhah would be in sync with the aggadita.

I discussed that there is an ambiguity whether the idea has to "work"
in terms of being a real shitah or "work" in terms of being the pesaq
we follow. Or IOW, I can't figure out when someone would see a shitah
we do not follow and say "the fact we can even suggest pesaq X is because
of aggadic idea Y", and when they would say "the fact that we reject
pesaq X reflects the fact that we do not believe Y".

But to say that we believe Y because of an X that cannot even be called
a shitah??? How does such a "fun idea to play around with" prove anything?

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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