[Avodah] Ahab

[Micha Berger via Avodah]

On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 01:55:53PM -0500, RZLampel via Avodah wrote:
: >those who believe that "Moavi velo Moavis" was a new derashah by
: >Boaz's court (eg the Rambam)

: The Brisker Rav's vort (on Rambam Hilchos Mamrim 2:1)  assumes
: Rambam held that this was a Halacha L'Moshe MiSinai, not a new
: derashah...

Agreed that such a shitah exists, thus my "those who believe". HOwever,
R' Avohu on Kesuvos 7b says that Boaz collected 10 men in "lemidrash
'amoni velo amonis, moavi velo moavis." How does he know it wasn't for
7 berakhos (R' Nachman's shitah)? Because of the need to get "miziqnei
ha'ir". Why 10? I presume -- and not 3: lefirsumei milsa.

Rus Rabba 7:9 states that Peloni didn't know *shenischadshah* din zu.

(When there is opposition to coronating David, Do'eg ha'adomi said that
he received this din from Shemuel haRamasi's BD, which is after Boaz. So
it's nt a data point.)

In any case, regardless of whether you want to say it's HlMM or a
derashah, and if the latter, when the derashah was made, an opinion in
the gemara and the medrash cannot be kefirah. Just the presence of an
opinion tells you it's okay to say a derashah wasn't discovered until
centuries after Matan Torah.

(I guess unless the gemara continues to ask the RBSO to be mokheil
Rabbi Hillel for what he said about mashiach.)

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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