[Avodah] Movement in a minyan

[Micha Berger]

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 08:35:29PM +0200, Ben Waxman wrote:
> My most common experience is when I go to a Sefardi shul and they sit  
> for many of the kaddishim...

Tangent: This was the practice among nearly all (non-Chassidic) Ashkenazim
as well until some point recently enough for me to remember the shift.

The Rama himself recommends standing, after retelling a ma'aseh rav
that the Maharil sat. See Darkhei Moshe on the Tur OC 56. But here's
the weird part: his ra'ayah is a Mordekhai that isn't in our edition
citing a Y-mi that isn't in our edition quoting a phantom pasuq.

>                            I asked a relative (a rav) of Rav Moshe's and  
> he told me that in his opinion, Rav Moshe's psak doesn't apply because  
> you can always say that you are in a part of the tefilla that requires  
> standing. I never found that such a satisfying answer, a kind of a minor  
> lie.

I would think of it slightly differently. Because it is normal for people
to be in other places in davening and thus standing when the majority are
sitting, it lacks the in-your-face perishah min hatzibur to stand for
other reasons.

Lulav shaking is a rather benign case -- you're yotzei either way, and
you could simply shake in the way your ancestors did right after the
berakhah, preferably not in shul.

Tefillin on ch"m is far more messy than your example: one side thinks that
wearing tefillin is taking a sickle to the forces that maintain creaiton,
while the other side thinks that not wearing tefillin is violating
"midevar sheqer *tirchaq*" (while not actual sheqer, mechzei keshiqra).
It's not just "you can be yotzei once doing it another way".

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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