[Avodah] text of Alenu

[Lisa Liel]

On 9/8/2013 10:44 AM, Micha Berger wrote:
> 3- In any case, whichever was the original... Once you concede that
> "lesaqein" appears in numerous rishon-approved texts (e.g. Machzor
> Vitri), then you have established (pun intented, sorry) the idea's
> acceptability. One doesn't need the antiquity of being the first nusach
> to prove an idea is Jewish rather than an error.
>
> And you may have noticed I tend to post versions of #3 in every discussion
> of historical analyses of Judaism. This comment is a sibling to my
> assertion that it's up to a halachicist, not a historian, to decide
> whether more information about what a kezayis /was/ has halakhah lemaaseh
> impact on what a kezayis /is/.
>    

I don't see the connection.  Nusach isn't the same as halakha.  
Otherwise people who say "she-hem mishtachavim" and people who don't 
couldn't both be yotzei saying Aleinu.  K'zayit is a concrete, 
fact-based measurement.

Lisa