[Avodah] kibud av ve-em

[Daniel M. Israel]

Number 2 below I can hear (not that I would be makpid on in with my child).

As far as the others, I would presume these need to be weighed against other halachic considerations, so I can't see how often they would come up.  For example, if the result of not asking the parent to cook would be the child has to cook a separate meal, this could greatly inconvenience the mother.  Same with a child needing to make a separate trip to the store.  Doesn't the child have to ask whether that is really how the parent want the child spending his time?  Wouldn't the parent be happier if the child did some more helpful household chore, or spent the time learning?

Even passing the salt- what should the child do?  Reach around rudely, get up from the table and walk around, or not enjoy the food his mother worked so hard on?

On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Eli Turkel <eliturkel at gmail.com> wrote:
> I was recently learning hilchot kibud av ve-em in our weekly halacha shiur.
> It seems theo me that at least it my circles it is virtually impossible for any modern teenager to keep these halachot
> some examples
> 
> ROY (Yabea Ober)
> One cannot ask ones mother or father to cook food for them or to bring in food or drink even after asking mechila
> 
> R Kareliz (Chut Shani)
> 1, If the parents are going to a store the child cannot ask them to buy things for them unless there is no way for the child to buy it themselves. The child can hint as long as the father is not a talmod chacham
> 2. One cannot ask ones parents to turn off the lights in the room or to bring a book (again it is allowed by hinting as long as the father is not a TC)
> 3. One cannot ask ones parents to pass the salt - only hint by asking "Is there salt at the end of the table?"