[Avodah] Grape Juice

[Eitan Levy]

At 02:41 PM 7/23/2013, martin brody wrote:
”I normally use Kedem's mevushal Concord Kal for Kiddush.  However,  for the Sedarim I use the same wine,  but it is not mevushal.  I taste no difference between the two,  so I fail to understand how at least for this variety you can say that the mevushal type is "spoiled" by cooking.

Furthermore,  there have been times when I have cooked wine that was not mevushal.  (See below for the reason.)  Once it cools and is refrigerated,  I taste no difference.

Of course, I am not a connoisseur when it comes to wine. 

There is another good reason to use mevushal wine.  It prevents problems when one has non-Jewish help like cleaning ladies.”  

-I am confused by what your point is here. If you are arguing that ‘cooking’ wine/juice does not in fact change the flavor and therefore it is not a problem at all for it to be used as is ‘uncooked’ wine for Kiddush etc., then this should preclude it being helpful for dealing with issues of non-Jews handling wine, no? The entire argument in the Gemara is that cooking the wine ‘ruins’ it and therefore it is not fitting to be used in avodah zarah. If we say it is OK (l’hatchila) to use ‘ruined’ wine for Kiddush while categorically rejecting the possibility of its use in serving foreign gods, that strikes me as very strange to say the least.
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B’ahavat Yisrael,
-Eitan Levy
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