[Avodah] Halachic Guidelines for kashrut

[martin brody]

"Did you see anything in what I wrote about being non-kosher?   (However,
you seem to have forgotten the Rabbi Simon of the LBD said they do not
approve Brussels sprouts without supervision.)
The suggestion that certain products were not kosher was not aimed at you
in particular but a generalization. However I was talking about all
products and not specifically Brussel sprouts.
As for R.Simon, I am awaiting his confirmation of that fact. His comments
contradict those written in the booklet.At least in the edition that I
have.There is a new one just recently released. the language may have been
changed in that issue.
Martin Brody.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Prof. Levine <llevine at stevens.edu> wrote:

>  At 01:27 PM 11/28/2011, martin brody wrote:
>
> "See the above URL for the rest of these articles.
>  From this articles it should be clear why there
> are differences between kashrus in the US and
> Israel and the rest of the world and why one
> should not extrapolate from the standards of one
> organization in a given country to the situation in other countries.
> YL"
>
> Sorry, but I completely disagree with you.
> A jar of Polish jam that is kosher in Sainsbury's, Golders Green, is just
> as kosher in Trader Joes in Westwood, California.
> That there are kashrut agences that have standards that are meta
> halachic,(none of the majors permit batel, for example) and differ amongst
> themselves in many cases, is irrelevant to the kashrut of a product,
> including that lovely vegetable, Brussel sprouts that started this whole
> thing off. Don't want to rely on those guidlines? Then don't, but please do
> not suggest that the products are not kosher.
> Kind regards,
>
>
> Did you see anything in what I wrote about being non-kosher?   (However,
> you seem to have forgotten the Rabbi Simon of the LBD said they do not
> approve Brussels sprouts without supervision.)
>
> Again from the Halachic Policy Guidelines of the Kashrus Authority of
> Australia http://bit.ly/t04ow7
>
> Similarly there are two distinct paradigms in relation to supervision of
> kosher foods. The *certification* paradigm, when a company comes to you
> and pays you for your services as well as markets also specifically to
> Jews; and the *approval* paradigm, where you initiate the visit to the
> company, you are not paid by the company and the company are not
> particularly interested in the Kosher market.
>
> and
>
> 3. We have a third level (that does not exist in the USA). These are what
> we have called “approved” products manufactured by persons not of the
> Jewish faith. I have written a detailed article explaining the halachic
> rationale and resultant differences as well as our current policies in that
> regard and you may find it on our website www.ka.org.au in the halachic
> policies section. It is in relation to this “level” that we indeed follow
> the London Beth Din, The Manchester Beth Din, The Johannesburg Beth Din,
> and all who currently list “approved” products.
>
> Note the following from the same URL
>
> Kosher Australia based in Victoria has announced that it is moving to only
> use the certification paradigm, and as such in their most recent update
> they have removed products such as Sanitarium So Good. That policy change
> is of course their choice, and we emphasise that it should be fully
> respected by those under their jurisdiction. However, the rabbis of The
> Kashrut Authority (comprising the rabbis of The Sydney Beth Din and the
> Yeshiva Rabbinate with over forty years’ experience in Kashrut in NSW) are
> of the view that it is *still necessary for us to retain the approvals
> paradigm*.
>
> From this I get the impression that if they could move away from the
> approvals paradigm they would.  YL
>
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Martin Brody
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