[Avodah] Birds & Fish in the Mabul

[Lisa Liel]

On 11/2/2011 10:34 AM, Lampel wrote:
> On 11/1/2011 8:41 PM, avodah-request at lists.aishdas.org wrote:
>> RMB:
>>
>>
>> "Mitachas hashamayim" and moreso "kol hashamayim" lack the ambiguity
>> of whether eretz or adamah refers to the whole world, a piece of it,
>> a clump of dirt, etc...
> Besides, 40 straight days and nights (a miraculous accurance, they 
> say) of  torrential rain, not to mention the waters of the "fountains 
> of the great deep," would seem to have to result in somewhat more of a 
> local flood, no? And the relevance of Hashem declaring that seasons 
> would not cease, as they implicitly had during that entire year of the 
> Mabul, would also indicate a major, more than local-flood kind of 
> occurence. Finally, Chazal speak of the Mabul having been preceded by 
> another major Flood in the generation of Enosh, that had flooded 
> merely one third of the world. So whatever amount of land that 
> involved, the Mabul involved three times as much. (I don't buy the 
> non-historical-meaning thesis, at least not in this case.)

Also, Chazal speak of a localized Mesopotamian flood that destroyed 
almost half of the 70 nations at the time of the Dor HaPalga.

Lisa