[Avodah] Bittul LeChatChila and BeDiAvad

[Meir Rabi]

I think that this following message posted on Avoda requires some
adjustment:
"if the goy is seeking our certification before he manufactures the
product, then he is making it for our benefit, and giving him the OK to mix
it is the same as mixing it ourselves. Whereas if he is making it for his
own purposes, and is merely doing us a favour by disclosing to us after the
event what he put in it, then it's bediavad."

I am fairly sure that Reb Moshe proves that a Goy who of his own
initiative, wishes to make for his J neighbour, some fruit stew in his
non-K kitchen with his non-K pots and utensils, and the G calls in a Rabbi
to provide assurance to the J neighbour that the food contains no non-K
stuff; there is no problem with the food and there is no problem with the
rabbi being in attendance. The G may cook in his regular pots without
Kashering them first. Reb Moshe applies this to the situation of first
Kashering a manufacturing plant that wishes to make Kosher margarine.

Now the G makes fantastic fruit stew and since it is not only K but
delicious and cheap; the Yiddel decides to order some for the upcoming
Bar-Mitzvah of his son. This is not permitted. This is LeChatChila. If he
did order it, it may not be eaten, neither by he who instructed it be made,
nor by those who were the intended beneficiaries. However, it is Kosher and
therefore it may be brought to Shule for all other Kosher conacious Yidden
to partake and enjoy.

Accordingly, any company that wishes to provide Kosher accreditation to its
present production can employ a rabbi to provide that certification.
However, if Fishel's Fantastic Kosher wishes to contract for the
manufacturing of the identical product but under the Fishel label, then we
must Kasher the machinery.
-- 

Best,

Meir G. Rabi
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