[Avodah] Baruch Hu Uvaruch Shemo

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Micha
> Look also at the progression of
>     sheAmar veHayah haOlam
>     Omeir ve'Oseh -- we introduce "asiyah", which people do too
>     Gozeir umQayeim -- now, the statement isn't itself the action, He
>              descrees and fulfils that decree
>     Meracheim al haaretz
>     Meracheim al habrios -- less cosmic than the previous
>     Meshaleim sechar tov lirei'av -- and in the previous line it was
>              everyone

> It could well be that the problem is in the connective, without which
> "barukh shemo" could be considered a rephrase of "barukh Hu".

Hang on for the ride :-)


Hertz's point:
Each phrase (Not just what we have)
Triggered a baruch hu
And the next phrase a baruch shemo.
Iow alternating responses

H - Hazzan
Q - Qehal

H: Baruch she'amar...
Q: Baruch hu
H: Baruch omeir...
Q: Baruch shemo

Etc.

My point from piyyut is that sometimes we have a 3-pronged response

H: A..
Q: Omrim qadosh
H: B...
Q: Omrim Baruch
Then an interweave
H: C...
Q: Qadosh uVaruch

Now go back and retrofit the same type of interweave into say Baruch
she'amar and you would get:

Q: Baruch hu
Q: Baruch shemo
Q: Baruch hu uvaruch shemo

Point: the response is likely very old (say Gaonic)

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> In Ma'aseh HaRav, it says that the Gra was against saying BHBS for a
> (technical)
 [hagaha RRW: practical]
> reason, that the shaliakh tzibbur doesn't wait for people to say
> it, people do say it, and then they miss saying amen.
> Ben

Amein! :-) this is my experience in most shuls where the shatz does not
pause long enough.

I usually pick and choose. If the shatz pauses I say bhuvsh otherwise
I don't

KT
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