[Avodah] FW: R Tzadok-TSBP
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Mon Jun 29 09:13:08 PDT 2009
Samuel S
> The real reason is that to have 'sugyos' in Shas
> contradict each other is no evil in your eyes. Tosfos gives the most
> straight forward ways to resolve these seeming contradictions, a real
> straight shooter. If you would accept the reality, that Shas is a
> seamless whole (by and large - we are talking in generalities), you
> would have no issue with Tosfos.
My friend R Dr E Kanarfogel opposes Dr Feldblum and Dr Halivni in that
he holds like Tosafos viz. that the Bavli is "tightly redacted."
Drs. Feldblum, Halivni et. Al. Can muster many rayos to the contrary.
Halivni once showed us that a braisso in shas was quoted in full 3 times
and in part 3 times and that the partial quotes led to kushiyos that
were not applicable where it had been fully quoted.
It is therefore obvious to me that Shas was not redacted uniformly.
Nevertheless I still like Tosafos anyway and frankly I find Tosafos
presents dialectic in a far more straightforward manner than Shas itself
does. Shas has MANY phrases and structures to indicate a contradiction.
Tosafos uses just a few and his shakla v'tarya is usually more tight
than shas's. Learning a lot of tosafos early serves as a stepping stone
to the shakla v'tarya of shas because it is simply more accessable
for the most part. Even if you reject Tosafos's p'saq he plays the
dialectic game better than anyone else IMHO and therefore his methods
are most instructive.
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Learning Rambam OTOH will almost never teach you how to get from point
A to D by means of B and C.
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Then again the maharal said better pisqei harosh than tosafos.
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If you want a really good compromise learn Ritva Ran (especially on Shas)
and or me'iri. They are almost a sheeta mequbetzes of early rishonim.
KT
RRW
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