[Avodah] Shelach

rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
Tue Jun 16 16:03:18 PDT 2009


Cantor Wolberg:
> My point was that it wasn't necessary in the first place to send  
> m'raglim.
> That indicated a deficiency in bitachon.

AIUI, and perhaps Zev and others were saying is:

Moshe's agents were evaluating the quality of the land. This evenetually
became "lookng the gift-horse in the mouth.". It devolved into a negative
Judgment

OTOH Yehoshua's agents had a different mission, find out their military
vulnerabilities - just as an army scout goes ahead to see the military
layout.

This is not just post facto apologetics. Yehoshua was already an
accomplished general who would challenge the Sar Zeva Hashem by asking
"are you theirs or ours!" Yehoshua was not just courageous, he was
lehavdil an agressive general in the mode of a George Patton. So his
charge was about pragmatic tactics.

As I See him, Yehoshua was also agressive in last week's parsha "adoni
moshe k'la-eim". His persona comes accross to me as bold, fearless,
confident (in HKBH)

So I find it unlikely that Yehoshua's mission betrayed any lack of
bitachon.

Also Moshe himself sends men l'regaeil es ya'zer in parshas huqqas.
Unlikely that Moshe didn't learn from shelach

Zev already outlined about 90% of my proposed 2nd posting.

The key verb is that in mission 2 of moshe and in mission 1 of yehoshua,
the verb lerageil appears. In shelach it never does only lassur.
Iirc Zev hit on this distinction already - And it is key to my hint.

The last 2 cases were military. Aiui the agents in Shelach were not
secret. They were like newcomers coming to a city and consulting real
estate agents for the layout of the land in a socio-ecpnomic sense.
EG someone from the city moves to a suburb they check out the choicest
neighborhoods, where the schools, shuls, jobs etc. may be found. That is
apparently the mission in shelach and it backfires.

AISI the mission was probably not about lack of emuna re: conquest,
rather it was lack of emunah re: how good the land really was. The spies
devolved it into a military "mission impossible" on their own.

KT
RRW
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