[Avodah] can a navi make a mistake

hankman salman at videotron.ca
Wed Jun 10 16:42:13 PDT 2009


RRW wrote:
3. It is assur to Test a Navi too much [Hinuch Parahs Vo'eschanan]  So
   once a Navi is established who says he cannot err?
CM responds:
I do not think it is mistavr that the novi must be infallible when becomming a novi but thereafter can err. It's about the nature of nevuoh and that will not change whether the novi is muchzok or not.

RRW wrote:
 7. What about the shtuyos embedded in Yosef's dreams?  Didn't even
   legitimate dreamers have extraneous material?
CM responds:
I do not think that Yosef or any of the shevatim were considered neviim. (although I once saw, don't recall from who, that when Yaakov scolded Yosef for telling his dreams to the brothers that the reason 
Yosef did so was because he thought it would be kovesh nevuoh). What shtuyos are you talking about. They thought Yosef was talking about his mother, but Rochel was dead, so this could not come to pass. They did not realize that it meant Bilah who raised him.

RRW wrote:
8. If every navi is infallible then how is Moshe superior to brother
   Aharon and siter Miriam?  
CM responds:
I responded to this in a previous posting.As I said then, (one of) the differences is in the clarity and depth of the vision. not the correctness of what they took away from the nevuoh, (Moshe more the others less).

RRW wrote:
But how is that shayach when EVERY navi bats one  thousand!?
CM responds:
The only column the novi always bats "one thousand" is for lack of error in the nevuoh, but not for depth and clarity of the vision. Some neviim saw with greater clarity others less so, but none of them were wrong in their vision. 

Finally, I am not sure on what basis you want to differentiate between "private (telling only one person?) and public nevuoh." I do not know of any such difference, but if you have a mekor for this I will stand corrected. See Rambam Yesodei HaTorah 7:7  where he speaks of nevuoh to the novi himself (not to tell anyone) or of a nevuoh to tell others, but notes no difference between a "private" nevuoh to tell a yochid and one to tell to a rabim. See also 10:3 in the Rabam.

Kol Tuv

Chaim Manaster
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