[Avodah] (Neviim & Possible Mistakes); Akeidah & Yizchak

[hankman]

RYZ wrote:
I don't see here that when the Moshol itself is
said that it is because the meaning was not revealed to him

CM responds:
I agree. It  may have been revealed to him, but it was made clear to the novi that this was not for publication but for him only.

RYZ wrote:
II would tend to think that the Novie understands what
is meant to him to relate Moshol Pisron or both
CM responds:
I agree, except that "understands" may be a little weak. I think that this is part and parcel of the nevuoh as to what is for publication. (I really think we essentially agree here just I am using slightly more emphatic terminology).

RYZ wrote:
Koveish Nvuosoi is when he
says nothing (or not saying the Pisron or both when that was the intention
of HKB"H).

CM responds:
I disagree. Koveish nevuoso is more encompassing. It includes leaving out any part of the nevuoh intended for publication.

RYZ wrote:
Further according to your reasoning a Novie that was Kovesh a Nvuoh witout a
Pisron would not be Over. 

CM responds:
No. A novi that is kovesh any part of his nevuoh is over. If the nevuoh was just the moshol and he was kovesh that, he would be over. What gave you the impression that I wrote any different?

RYZ wrote:
Also all nvous that were given witout Pisron
would have to be from such a class,  and they could have not been said

CM responds:
I am not clear on exactly what you mean here. Certainly a nevuoh, could be either for publication or not even without a pisron, why should they not have been said? Apparently there is value in the moshol alone even if you and I (and the novi) do not get it. Perhaps at some time the meaning will eventually become clear?

Kol Tuv

Chaim Manaster

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