[Avodah] rishonim, yevamos 24a, ain mikreh.....

rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com
Thu May 28 13:17:16 PDT 2009


HB:
> What then should we do with: scriptural commands to: 1. give 40 lashes
> (not 39) 2. count omer 50 days (not 49) 3. ayin tachas ayin, shein tachas
> shein literally (not mammon); 4. eat matzah 6 days v. 7 days; 5. not
> outside on shabbas (a la karaites). 6. lo tevashel gdi b'cheilev imo
> (without any attendant milk/meat prohibitions besides for the specific
> ones mentioned in the Torah), etc???

Ok slow down

> What then should we do with: scriptural commands to:
> 1. give 40 lashes (not 39)

Up to not including

> 2. count omer 50 days (not 49)

Up to not including.
AISI it's linguistics

> 3. ayin tachas ayin, shein tachas shein literally (not mammon);

Legal idiom meaning just compensation or no more than an eye for an
eye. See avodah archives

> 4. eat matzah 6 days v. 7 days;

2 psukim. This follows principle 8 of Rabbi Yishmael. We are reuqired
to eat matza only at seder. The other p'sukkim create an asei to avoid
hametz.

> 5. not outside on shabbas (a la karaites).

Don't leave your place
Place is defined as a 2000 cubit radius. So what? What if karaite lived
in Trump tower? Would he be restricted to his bedroom? Bathroom?

> 6. lo tevashel gdi b'cheilev imo

It is taken literally

> (without any attendant milk/meat prohibitions besides for the specific
> ones mentioned in the Torah), etc????

See Onkelos. So the literal meaning is not rejected just expanded.

Peshat is not necessarily being literal to the point of pathology?
Do you want your cake and eat it too?

Torah is written in flowery Hebrew, akin to poetry. Going overboard
into literlism isn't necessarily even being faithful to philology

And the Moreh Nevuchim cited is really cherry picking. The Rambam has
50 deifintions (or more) that must NOT be seen literally. So what are
you really saying? That the Rambam is wrong because he failed to give
a thoroughly exhaustive of every similean mataphoran analogyan idiom? I
mean how high is up?

GUT Yontiff
RRW
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