[Avodah] Simchas Yom Tov

[Prof. Levine]

At 11:25 PM 5/25/2009, T613K at aol.com wrote:
>If the evening kiddush and se'udah are going to start at 9:30 or 
>10:00, people should eat a light meal around six o'clock.  The late 
>se'udah at night does not have to be a heavy meal and certainly does 
>not have to be the only meal of the day!  Challah, a main course, a 
>cup of tea and off to the bais medrash to learn [for the menfolk and 
>some of the liberated womenfolk], or time to toddle off to bed [for 
>the kidlets and old folks and the rest of the womenfolk].

Off to bed for the womenfolk!!!!  What happened to the time honored 
custom of women staying up all night on the first night of Shavuous 
baking various kinds of cheesecake?   Has this important minhag been 
lost in America? For shame! >:-}

>
>I don't know exactly why the question of the late meal is coming up 
>now, anyway.  Doesn't practically everybody end up eating quite a 
>late meal at the seder?  Especially in a year like this when it was 
>already daylight savings time at least in the US?  What's the big deal?

When it comes to the seder, there is absolutely no way that one can 
start it early. One must make Kiddush after Tzeis so that one has 
Arba Kosos at the seder.  However, when it comes to Shavuous, there 
are opinions that allow one to make Kiddush early. Please see the 
selections I have posted at 
http://personal.stevens.edu/~llevine/maariv_on_shavuous.pdf  taken 
from the sefer Shorshei Minhag Ashkenaz, volume 4, by Rabbi Benyamin 
Shlomo Hamburger.

Also, Tzeis on Shavuous is later than on Pesach.

YL
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