[Avodah] water and electricity

D&E-H Bannett dbnet at zahav.net.il
Sat May 9 12:57:24 PDT 2009


I have also seen a letter from Reb. Moshe Feinstein stating 
that he agrees with the chakhmei Eretz Israel who see the 
issur in electricity in the status of the resultant action.

IIRC, Harav Henkin spoke of tikkun kli.  I don't remember 
that he saw no issur if the result wasn't in itself assur.

R' Yitzhak Schmelkes,  the Bet Yitzhak, spoke of molid which 
is an act of tikkun kli d'rabbanan (Different from nolad 
which is a muktze because the item didn't exist at the onset 
of Shabbat)

If you read my quote from the CI, you might note that his 
Boneh is very similar to Tikkun Kli (d'oraita), and to Molid 
Zerem a tkkun kli d'rabbanan.  One difference is that, while 
there is no separate issur of un-tikkun or un-molid, there 
is an issur of un-boneh, i.e., s'tira.

I've heard a conjecture that the CI might have named the 
tikkun as boneh to prevent a possible heter to undo a tikkun 
or a molid.

To all three, the issur is thus the creative act of making a 
dead item come alive.

I think that RSZA view is different, He sees nothing wrong 
in principle with activating a device or deactivating it if 
the result is not an issur. It is using an already existing 
kli, like opening and closing a door. As to molid he says 
that it is limited to chazal's g'zeira, e.g., molid ur, 
molid reicha, and we cannot make a new g'zera of molid zerem 
To RZSA, the isur today is that kvar horah zaken, the Bet 
Yitzhak, and all of Israel has accepted the issur.

Or so it all seems to me, one who doesn't have the knowledge 
or authority to decide halakha and most certainly not to 
suggest changes in religous behavior or custom.


David 




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