[Avodah] Electricity
D&E-H Bannett
dbnet at zahav.net.il
Fri May 8 07:11:41 PDT 2009
Re: <<When the timer is off and the appliance isn't plugged
in, you just have a circuit that is broken in two places.
once you plug in the appliance, until the timer ticks (if it
is a mechanical timer for sure and even an electrical timer
probably) the circuit remains broken and should not be
considered boneh.>>
Many years ago, I questioned Harav Elyashiv about an alarm
system someone was selling which used the "broken in two
places" idea.
His reply was that. If closing both connections are required
for the system to operate, the first connection might be
considered gramma. In the alarm system, however, closing
the second switch is not what makes the device operative.
Closing of the first switch makes the system operative and
ready to disclose the intruder who closes the second switch.
This, said Rav YSE, is an exact example of CI's boneh, and
not what some say it is. Closing the first switch makes the
system alive and doing it's job. That's the boneh. So I
recommended to the one who had questioned me that he should
not buy that alarm system.
R' E Turkel said something similar to this about the CI's
boneh in his posting a day or two days ago.
I also just discovered that RSPick quoted additional
information from RSZA's Kovetz Ma'amarim b'inyan CHashmal.
This reminded me that I had not supplied a source in my
previous posting on RSZA's issur or lack of issur on
chashmal. The same source, pages 21 and 54.
To help clear up the various ideas being posted about CI
boneh, I think I should quote the exact words of the CI.
"od yesh bazeh mishum tikkun mana mikivan shema'amido al
tekhunato lizrom et zerem hachashmal bitemidut karov hadavar
d'zeh mimlekhet boneh min haTorah k'oseh kli"
Pls note the CI's "weak" terminology: mishum, karov
hadavar.
David
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