[Avodah] (Neviim & Possible Mistakes); Akeidah & Yizchak Follow-Up;

[Zev Sero]

harveybenton at yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> RGDubin:
> Avraham Avinu was a navi and Yitzchak was therefore required to listen 
> to him.

> HB:
> 1. What qualifies as a Novi (Dovid? Yehoshua?) In Avraham's Time The 
> Rambam's (or other presently codified rules mistama did not apply)
> 1b: Whatever rules may/may not have applied; did Yitzchak properly 
> investigate them???

Once you know someone is a novi it is FORBIDDEN to question him.


> 2. Even if Avraham was a true Novi, do/did Novis ever make (potentially 
> fatal or otherwise) mistakes?

It doesn't matter.   One MUST obey a novi.  If he mistakenly thinks
he got a nevuah when he didn't, that's his cheshbon.


> 3a; case 1; Dovid took a census he (aparentyl) shouldn't have; 
> subsequently thousands died.

a) I don't think Dovid was a novi; b) He acted al daas atzmo.


> 3b; case 2; Yehoshua wasn't careful enough that his troops/men not 
> partake of forbidden spoils; again, many died.
> 3c. Moshe was a Novi, and made mistakes with accepting the eruv rav (acc 
> to Chazal) and many died because of it with the incident of the Eigel;
> Moshe also made a mistake (hitting v. speaking to the rock) and was 
> therefore not able to gain entry into Eretz Yisrael.

In all these cases they acted on their own initiative, not by nevuah.


> 4. Given all of the above, even if Avraham was a verified and true Novi, 
> should/was Yitzchak allowed to have listened to him??

If he said "Hashem told me to do this" then he must obey.  No question.

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