[Avodah] Women at Duchenen

[rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com]

Dr. Levine:
> And this Minhag seems to be against Halacha: The Shulchan Aruch OCh128,23
> writes that during Duchenen the listeners and the Kohanim haveto be
> "face to face". This is based on Rambam Mishne Torah Tefila14,7, and
> ultimately on the Gemara Sota 38a

> Do you know of this Minhag? What could it be based on? Or is it aMinhag
> Shtus which should be abolished?

RRW: yes I have heard of it from "uneducated" Yekkes...

AFAIK it is a minhag ta'us or shtus because it is against halacha. YES,
It is rare for me to say this.

Dr. Levine
> Could you ask your audience if someone knows of this Minhag? Theywould
> have to ask their wives - here even the Rabbanim did not knowabout it,
> because they do not look at the Ezrat Nashim, especiallyduring Duchenen,
> and nobody ever told them.

RRW: 
> To me minhag has authority over time because lack of Lmacha'ah". Therefore
> any Minhag out of sight of poskim is not really a reliable minhag.
> Iow you can only "bank Upon" a minhag that has had "peer review"

Raya?
The case of Hillel when eve of Seder was on shabbos re: karban pesach
And
Re: Rebbe fasting erev pesach when on shabbos.  

Conclusion: anything infrequent or out of sight is not reliable.

I plan to follow up with 1 or 2 more similar illustrations on
Nishma-minhag BEH

KT
RRW
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