[Avodah] Why Karpas should be less than a K'zayyis

Chaim G Steinmetz cgsteinmetz at juno.com
Mon Apr 20 14:31:24 PDT 2009


2) Other Rishonim
We clearly find other Rishonim who hold that one washes (with a brocho)
on tibul bemashke even less than a kzayis, and they mention this in
connection with the seder. Namely, the Tur in Siman 473 and 486, where he
mentions the brocho and washing and says one does not need a kzayis.
Probably one can make such a case for the Rosh, who mentions that one
does not need a kzayis.
Also the Rashbo in a tshuva, clearly needs washing (with a brocho) and
does not need a kzayis.
These Rishonim (or rather - the Tur, he does not mention the others),
compelled the MB to retract from his view in 158:20 that one does not
need to wash for tibul bemashke on less than a kzayis according to
everyone - as it is clearly not the case - see Biur Halacha Siman 473 and
note in siman 158. [It would be interesting to go through more rishonim
to see if one can find others].
Therefore, irrespective of what they hold concerning bread - on tibul
bemashke kzayis is not a factor. This point is made by the Beis Meir
siman 158, that tibul bemashke is more stringent than bread!
Point being, that for sure karpas less than a kzayis accomplishes nothing
according these rishonim as far as washing (and with a brocho) is
concerned. Uposhut.
Next: The opinion of the mechaber (SA).
CGS
 
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