[Avodah] Karpas/Davar shetivulo bemashkeh

Zev Sero zev at sero.name
Mon Apr 13 15:44:28 PDT 2009


Micha Berger wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 04:39:06PM -0400, Zev Sero wrote:
> : No, it's to avoid the bracha achrona, so that the ha'adamah can apply
> : also to the maror, which is not part of the meal, and so is not covered
> : by the hamotzi.
> 
> If your maggid takes less than 72 minutes. No?

I don't see why.  You're focused on the matzah and maror the whole time
so why should the bracha expire?

 
> I was asked about that at the seder... How come marror is covered by
> the first berachah, but the kos yayin after maggid isn't?

Who says it wouldn't be, mitzad birchot hanehenin?  It's permitted
to drink between the first two cups; that includes right before the
second cup, and that drink would be covered by the hagafen of kiddush.
And Sefardim *don't* say brachot on the second and fourth cups (SA 474).
We Ashkenazim say a bracha on each cup, not because of hefsek, but
because each one is a separate mitzvah and a separate derech cherus
(MA 474).


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