[Avodah] lo dmus haguff.....

[Harvey Benton]

david riceman wrote:



rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com wrote:

> Given:

> A mal'ach is a spiritual entity lacking a body

> YET

> On occassion it can assume material form

>   

This is not the Rambam's opinion.  He holds that angels are visible only 

in dreams or prophetic visions.



hb: from chabad.org/library: yehoshua chapter 5:13. And it was when
Joshua was in Jericho,
that he lifted up his eyes and saw, and, behold, a man was standing opposite
him with his sword drawn in his hand; and Joshua went to him, and said to him,
Are you for us, or for our adversaries? 14. And he said, No, but I am the
the captain of the host of the Lord; ....snip....15. And the captain of the
Lord's host said to Joshua, Remove your shoe from your foot; for the place upon
which you stand is holy. And Joshua did so.   (end reference).

hb:Yehoshua according to pshat was standing and had to take off his shoes....
can a person stand while dreaming or while having a prophetic vision acc. to
the rambam???....doesn't the rambam say that all novi's except 4 moshe rabeinu
lose control of their bodies (shaking, convulsing, etc??) (see also megilla 3b
where it clearly states that it was a malach that appeared to yehoshua, and
gave yehoshua the 2 reasons that he was there….)

2. was the writing on the wall by a disembodied hand (daniel chapter 5)written
by a malach?? a shin daled?? by Hashem, or some other supernatural entity??? 

Again, what would the rambam say about those who saw the
hand? that they were dreaming? or having a prophetic vision???


3. Finally, some say that yaakov wrestled with the angel of
eisav (gid hanashe)... again, would the rambam argue with those meforhsim that hold it was an actual angel that yaakov wrestled with??? HB


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