[Avodah] Stam yeinam of Giyur Candidates

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Wed Jun 10 09:54:35 PDT 2009


On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 04:37:20PM +0100, Chana Luntz wrote:
: RMB asked about the question of a ger toshav.  The gemora brings differing
: opinions on this in Avodah Zara 64b - which included one opinion that wine
: touched by them was permitted for drinking, but other opinions that it was
: not, and it may be yayin neseach...

I don't get the gemara. If he's a geir toshav, then he keeps the 7
mitzvos, or at least is a monotheist (following the machloqes on that
amud, this is R' Meir as given by the beraisa) or even that he accepts
all mitzvos except neveilos -- which would mean he doesn't have an AZ
to give wine libations to. So how could it possibly be yayin nesekh?

...
: The reality is that most of the permissible cases of amira l'akum involve
: things like helping the sick, disabled or vulnerable or assisting the
: community as a whole...

Also ein gezeira chal al gezeira would permit amira to do many of the
dinim derabban, no? I don't know about shevus, where you get into Brisker
Teireh about chakhamim defining the limits of a din deOraisa, or dinim
derabbanan that are to preserve the gefeel of Shabbos rather than actual
gezeiros (protection of a deOraisa from violation by habit or accident).


Thanks for yet another informative post. I don't say that often enough.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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