[Avodah] mavriach ari
Eli Turkel
eliturkel at gmail.com
Wed Jun 10 00:49:18 PDT 2009
<<But a concept like Mevarech Ari surely shouldn't only be produced by
interaction with non frum Jews, should it? >>
I dont have an answer to Chana's question. However, early generations could
certainly have discussed the case of someone killing a lion on shabbat
which then allowed
a permissible act - is one allowed to get this indirect benefit.
The gemara already discusses getting direct benefit from chillul
shabbat and so recognizes
that people do sins.
A related question (not identical) which is discussed is getting
benefit from someone
putting out a fire on shabbat
Thus for example I assume that everyone agrees that if someone changes
a shabbat clock
(even through an averira) so that a light that was supposed to go off
remains on that there
is no problem of benefitting from the light. In practice the light
simply remains on all
shabbat and we dont take into account that it was meant to go off and
someone sinned and
changed those facts.
Indeed R. Zilberstein simply takes it for granted without sources that
mavriach ari has to
allow benefit from the action
--
Eli Turkel
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