[Avodah] goy vs chiloni

[Eli Turkel]

>
> I don't think this can be right.
>
> The reason I say that is that thousands of frum Jews in Israel have been
> living with these door systems for decades.  The accepted situation is that
> those who live in the apartments have keys, and enter with the keys.  If
> inviting guests, they either prop the door ajar, or the guests stand outside
> and yell until they attract the attention of the residents, who come down
> and open the door for them.
>
> Even if there are chilonim in the appartment block, which there often are,
> there is no need to rely on the actions of a chiloni to get into one's
> appartment, and hence absolutely no need for this heter.  Why would anybody
> be seeking what is clearly a more problematic halachic reliance if he could
> wait until the chiloni closed the door, and then use his own key?  In such a
> circumstance he would clearly not be getting any benefit from the action of
> the chiloni, and the guf of the d'var, ie the door, has been changed back to
> what it was.
>

I will reread the teshuva however my assumption was that the chiloni opened
the door with a buzzer on his own to be nice and the question was
whether one could enter
or had to wait for someone to walk down and open the door manually

A related question that often arises is when is walking up the stairs
in the dark and the
chiloni neighbor decides to be nice and turns on the lights what one should do?


-- 
Eli Turkel