[Avodah] Selling Real Chameitz

[Micha Berger]

The recent coversation cleared things up for me -- selling vadai chameitz
is only allowed for hefseid merubah, CSAAHP is a kenas and therefore
only applies to what was done wrong beforehand, and therefore the
storeownerer's hefseid would prevent my kenas.

We're still discussing on Avodah how the sale could be valid or not
valid because of hefseid merubah. What's the machloqes over the qinyan
that we're siding lehaqeil because of the hefseid?


I still say think the other issue raised should allow the sale. Given
the storage size of today's kitchen and the invention of refrigerator
and freezer, we own MUCH more food than balebatim (baalei bayis) did
before the 20th century. Even adjusting for difference in income.
Before refrigeration, you had to shop every other day or so for
perishables, so the usual routine was to have only a day or two of food
in the house. Except for staples like flour and sugar, you didn't own
two weeks of food. How much chameitz mamash would they have? A barrel
of beer and a loaf of bread, and a safeiq about whatever flour got damp.
No one had to ramp down their inventory and plan meals accordingly from
Shushan Purim onward to prevent loss.

I therefore think that our current situation would qualify as a hefsed
merubah as the term was generally defined by posqim of that period.

This thread started 

:-)BBii!
-Micha

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