[Avodah] yosef

[Zev Sero]

Eli Turkel wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:32:08PM -0500, Zev Sero wrote:
> : The piyut doesn't say anything of the sort.  The wicked king claims to
> : be exacting justice for the sale of Yosef, and says he would have killed
> : the shvatim themselves if they were still alive, but since they aren't
> : he'll kill these 10 as their proxies.  None of this is supposed to be
> : just or legitimate; the paytan is just showing the wickedness of the king,
> : that not only did he kill these 10 tzadikim, but he dressed the murder up
> : as some sort of mitzva

> Micha wrote
>> Midrash Mishlei 1:13 does say they were a kapparah for the sale of
>> Yoseif. See also Pirqei deR' Eliezer (p' 38).

But the piyut does *not* say that.

> I am completely lost. Besides the medrash that Micha brings the piyut
> states explicitly that R. Yishmael Cohen Gadol went to Heaven and heard
> from behind the curtain that they are trapped (nilkadim) by this claim that
> the suffer for what the brothers did to Yosef

No.  It does not say that at all.


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