[Avodah] dalei dalim

[Jacob Farkas]

R Saul Z Newman wrote:
> 1. in re korban oleh v'yored, what did those  too poor for dalei dalim do?

The amount required for Dalei Dalim was 1/10 of an Eifah of fine flour 
(3.65 pounds, if my math is correct). My guess is that it costs more to 
travel to Jerusalem (and/or Har HaBayis) than to finance the actual 
offering.

> 
> 2. why were so few korbanot oleh v'yored?  didn't that mean all other 
> korbanot would be gauranteed to have people too poor to attain kapara?

The Meforshim (Ramban, Ba'al Haturim, Da'as Zekeinim Uba'alei Tosefos) 
disagree over the reasoning why oleh veyored is applied to certain 
transgressions.

Ramban holds that it (Oleh veyored) is limited to scenarios where you 
intended to do something positive and ended up with a sin (Arriving at 
the Beis HaMiqdash forgetting that you were Tamei). Other Rishonim feel 
that whenever one derived any physical benefit from the aveirah, there 
is no option of Oleh veyored, and those sins that offer zero-benefit are 
subkect to Oleh Veyored

What is common in their opinions is that certain transgressions are so 
severe that you should have to pay full price. When we allow for Oleh 
veyored, we are being specifically lenient and offer cheaper 
alternatives, should cost be an issue.

Whether this is fair to people who have no means, yes and no. So long as 
the punishment for the crime is known beforehand, it might actually be a 
greater deterrent for the person without means, knowing that in order to 
receive Kaparah, he would have to spend outside of his means.

--Jacob Farkas